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Post by McQ on Mar 10, 2014 15:46:50 GMT -6
I have just been contacted by someone that said that the Overlanders are no longer racing in Peoria? A fair that prides themselves on "motorsports every day of the fair?" Smoke rolling, engines screaming every night and now no Saturday afternoon truck races? I sure hope I received some bad information!
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Post by Justin ackman on Mar 10, 2014 16:10:56 GMT -6
That didn't take long
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Post by McQ on Mar 10, 2014 19:21:07 GMT -6
Actually a lot longer than i thought as they contacted me three years ago and wondered if i would just personally take the race over myself. Didnt want to make that public until , the ax fell though. It was a good run while it lasted i guess. As previously stated I sure hope the Overlanders circle the wagons and are able to keep a track they can call home.
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Post by justin ackman on Mar 10, 2014 19:30:28 GMT -6
the city of peoria doesnt want us racing the fair does. How have you been jeff?
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Post by McQ on Mar 10, 2014 19:35:17 GMT -6
Ive been good Justin thanks, how have you been?
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Post by justin ackman on Mar 10, 2014 20:55:15 GMT -6
busy
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Post by McQ on Mar 10, 2014 21:27:43 GMT -6
So how can the city of Peoria dictate who races on the Hoi ground? The old go cart track was alledged to be on city ground but the mud race track was HOi property as said by he president back then Larry C.
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Post by Justin ackman on Mar 10, 2014 21:55:13 GMT -6
It was in the newspaper they had a vote on a noise issue
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Post by jenks21 on Mar 10, 2014 22:38:28 GMT -6
I wish that someone would of mentioned something before it was too late. I would of gladly went down to voice my opinion and I am sure many others feel the same. After you mentioned it was in the paper i was able to find it on the web. Pretty much anything outside of the hoi fair is no motorsports. According to the article it sounded like the meetings were one sided and the board for the expo gardens was in a corner with only one right answer. Seems the major complaint was the truck pulls. The bogs wern't mentioned until the second article.
It's all politics like everything else. If you don't like the noise dont buy a house there. It's pretty simple. I like how this does not effect the events of the hoi fair. Well I have a gut feeling it will.
I hope there is another venue that there can be regular events. Like i said before. This sucks.
Aaron
EDIT: i now see on the hoi fair website that there are three days of tractor pulls and no 4x4 and no demo derby.
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Post by McQ on Mar 10, 2014 22:42:05 GMT -6
What day was it in the paper? I can see a vote being taken banning 4x4 during times that the fair isn't running due to increased noise levels in the neighborhood but a mud truck can't hold a candle to the blown truck and tractor pull motors during the HOI fair. Inside their open side shed works like a "Subwoofer" radiating the noise much greater distances and they do it until about midnight!! So I'm sure the city singled out the Overlanders 4x4 truck races during fair week for a Saturday afternoon event, when the fair puts on blown motor shows every night of the week? I'm befuddled?
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Post by jenks21 on Mar 10, 2014 22:47:33 GMT -6
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Post by McQ on Mar 11, 2014 8:33:21 GMT -6
Thanks Aaron!! I remember in the early 90's a local county was going to pass legislation to label all pit bulls as vicious dogs and require all owners to keep them muzzled and keep 1,000,000. dollars of insurance on each animal. We did our homework, put together a comprehensive presentation,produced a petition at the board meeting and guess what? They didn't pass the legislation. I think a little preparation here might have went a long way. too bad. Just like I suspected outside the fair I can understand but during the fair? That just doesn't seem right to surgically remove the truck races?
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Post by Last Resort on Mar 11, 2014 9:13:33 GMT -6
Aaron after reading the articles it appears the Hoi fair board made a concession on the noise. They threw out the 4x4 races and one night of tractor pulls as a bargaining chip to say they have made adjustments. It looks like there is still no limit to the amount of motorsports events they can have at the fair by the resolution. So in fact if they wanted to have the Overlanders race they could. They apparently took this window of opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.The tractor pulls(as we suspected) were the cheif complaint. So the people that were least supported lost. "Those tractor pulls are terrible," said Jerry Brost, who lives north of the fairgrounds.
A report from city staff recommends the council prohibit amplified or motorized events outdoors at Expo Gardens. The only exception would come each July, during the Heart of Illinois Fair.
"Those tractor pulls are terrible," said Jerry Brost, who lives north of the fairgrounds.
Said another man, who refused to identify himself: "Really, we need four tractor pulls in this community?
After several contentious public forums, fairgrounds directors and those who live within earshot of their facility came to a compromise. The area’s council representatives, Jim Montelongo of the 4th District and Casey Johnson of the 5th, helped facilitate it.
So it really wasn't the city of peoria s reported. It was the neighbors and the HOI board director's compromised with them to remove the Overlander's and the truck races along with one night of tractor pulls. If you fail to prepare you are preparing to fail! Hence the Overlanders loose yet another track as history repeats itself. It was good while it lasted!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzy6A_w-Iug
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Post by fan on Mar 11, 2014 13:01:38 GMT -6
sad
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Post by bsfarmer on Mar 11, 2014 13:04:54 GMT -6
The sad thing is it just sets a precedent for any other fair across the state. Fact is no fair board can afford a PR nightmare like that. There's no way to fight it you just have to comply or else face the consequences of someone calling the EPA or filing a lawsuit. My view as a fair board member if we were put in the same situation we would have no choice but to comply. We simply don't have the resources to fight something like that.
Fortunately here at Lee County, we don't have any neighbors to piss off and the general public "for the most part" realizes we are a family oriented not-for-profit so as long as everyone behaves civil and doesn't tear anything up, motorsports are welcome here.
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Post by ANNOYED on Mar 11, 2014 13:20:02 GMT -6
so jeff lets discuss the rainy day that ended avon that you and the prez decided after being told if you put on the race that day the overlanders would never have another race there agin so was your professional skills developed then by the way we loved that track thanks for nothing
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Post by McQ on Mar 11, 2014 16:10:14 GMT -6
so jeff lets discuss the rainy day that ended avon that you and the prez decided after being told if you put on the race that day the overlanders would never have another race there agin so was your professional skills developed then by the way we loved that track thanks for nothing Lenda, once again you are factually impaired!! Lol....Both Avon and peoria have the same end result for the same reason. I was in contact with the Avon people then, and have been in contact with the peoria people now. It all boils down to not keeping your word, and not bringing your "A" game as a club. You guys seem to have along history of that without the right people being in the right places. Sad very sad...... you have my sympathy.
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Post by ANNOYED on Mar 12, 2014 7:07:10 GMT -6
the onley bad history is you and your negative history if you were intouch with peoria you would have at least half of your facts correct you did destroy the relationship between the club and avon you and one other. I hope you do put on races but we all know the brown stuff you are full of. bythe way not lenda try agin
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Post by McQ on Mar 12, 2014 10:23:39 GMT -6
Glenda, Since you have your current "psycho scope" pointed at Avon in an apparent attempt to take the focus off of your most current disaster, I will gladly speak to the truth of the matter to once again set the record straight.
Well we had a not too good relationship (with AVON) about our third to last race in Avon. It seems that the Avon fair board people had been doing head counts and thought that the Overlanders were skimming money from them at the gate. (Which had been suspected by the Overlanders in the past) Also driving on the ball field that they were told to stay off of. They were also not happy that the club had not gotten the trailer out of there at some previous time like they had agreed to. (All of those incidents were before I officially represented the club.)The end of the partnership started with a race being over and the Overlanders picking up there equipment and leaving. Then the AVON President, Dan and I were the only ones left to wrap up fire hoses, empty trash cans and take down the fences. Both Dan and the President were not happy. So the next meeting I advised the club that AVON was not happy and they should stay after and help clean up.
Once again next race it did not happen. Same thing, we stayed after. The last fall race at Avon. We stayed into the dark using headlights for light rolling up fire hoses on the ball field. That was the day it rained.(Why they rolled out the fire hoses I don't know) The issue was "No pits" that's why they wanted to cancel the race. There was no way to get the the racers across that muddy field. Doug and I assured them that we could make the pits work on the spectator side. That was a very long day of helping people change tires and moving them out in a small space behind the bleachers. At the end of the day Doug and I were congratulated by the President and Dan for our work keeping the show going and running smooth in the small pit area.(that was before the hose rolling started and before the Overlanders left) The street maintainer for the Avon grounds had prepped the small strip of blacktop road connecting the grounds with the highway for resurfacing. When he saw the mud on his swept street he complained that he was going to have to wash off the street. He made a lot of noise. At that point Dan and the president were taking it rather well until the Overlanders had once again departed. We rolled hoses until something like 9:30 pm. At that point both Dan and the president had had enough of the Overlanders lack of follow through and used the mud on the street as a way to say sorry we want no more part of the Overlanders.(100% because of their past conduct)
The same way Peoria has cut ties with a problematic club. I don't blame either venue for getting rid of an organization that has a history of not producing the results they promise. I would do the same. Glenda it sure was unrefreshing to see you once again call on the "Pancake batter" you have for brains and spew out some hollow lies in an attempt to divert the attention of your failures. You loose again!
PS I know it makes you feel better to think I have no contacts in peoria, but the truth is, they run deep.I have a long history of doing what I say I'll do,(that makes one of us) an for some reason they still honor that.
McQ
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Post by ANNOYED on Mar 12, 2014 11:44:31 GMT -6
me and my pancakes was there your side is untruthful you know what took place and everybody else too.but when you get 2014 race dates in peoria set please post would love to attend maby you will be to busy to bad mouth every body is it lonley being perfic thought i would ask being no one else in your world is?
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