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Post by Brian on Jul 4, 2011 6:07:59 GMT -6
Is it allowed to run Class 2 Bog, and Open Class bog?
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Post by rogermiles on Jul 4, 2011 6:21:42 GMT -6
Brian to run in the open class you have to be a class 5 truck or greater to run in the open class. Hope this answered your question.
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Post by 2luvmud on Jul 4, 2011 12:05:45 GMT -6
Correct me if im wrong but if u run in class 2 u can choose to run class 3 n 4 if u want rite ??
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Post by richardkranium on Jul 4, 2011 20:55:50 GMT -6
i really dont understand that why would you NOT want a class 2 truck in open??? that makes no sense let him put his money in there afraid he will embarrass the open class trucks? judging by the last race your not gonna have enough trucks to get the ten trucks for the purse anyway with out letting some 2 3 and 4 trucks in......or is that the master plan to not get enough trucks to have the big pay out
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Post by richardkranium on Jul 5, 2011 14:07:02 GMT -6
thats what im saying it would probably help the open guys out to get the entries needed for the big payout. same way why would a class 4 or 5 truck not be allowed to enter 6 in the drags if the class four truck places that just simply means there were not enough fast class 6 trucks there because they shouldnt even be able to run anyway near those trucks. let a class two or 3 truck enter open bog makes for more entries there for a better show and better turn outs in future races...just my opinion
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Post by richardkranium on Jul 5, 2011 17:01:17 GMT -6
sorry class 7 i mean
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Post by maroonrocket on Jul 5, 2011 17:59:15 GMT -6
speakin of the bog pit hows it lookin?
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Post by confused guest on Jul 5, 2011 18:53:24 GMT -6
Correct me if im wrong but if u run in class 2 u can choose to run class 3 n 4 if u want rite ?? What rules are you using for the fair race? According to the bog rules as written a lower class trucvk can run the class they fit plus any higher class. General Bog Rules : 1) Any truck fitting a lower class can enter a higher class. same goes for the drags. the drag rules pages says Any truck fitting a lower class can enter a higher class I don't understand why they keep saying you must be class 5 or higher to run bogs open class. Thats not what the official rules page says. How do we get a official answer ? Why wouldn't you want as many entrys as you can get in open class of bog? Whats the diffrence? also the higher class of drags. More entries, more show for the people. If lower class wants to pay their money let them in !
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Post by whats up on Jul 5, 2011 19:11:26 GMT -6
I thought u can race any class u want if u fit in a lower class. Is the rules getting changed?
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Post by rogermiles on Jul 5, 2011 20:47:40 GMT -6
The rules have not changed. If you read the rules for class 5 or open class, which jeff just posted saying rollbar required, mininmum of 1 1/2 inch OD tubing. roll bar must be secured to vehicle in at least 6 separate points. must have kill switch. If your truck has all of this on it we can talk about it at teck. the day of the race. I dont now of to many class 2 or 3 trucks with these safety features.
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Post by reconfused guest on Jul 5, 2011 21:07:05 GMT -6
The rules have not changed. If you read the rules for class 5 or open class, which jeff just posted saying rollbar required, mininmum of 1 1/2 inch OD tubing. roll bar must be secured to vehicle in at least 6 separate points. must have kill switch. If your truck has all of this on it we can talk about it at teck. the day of the race. I dont now of to many class 2 or 3 trucks with these safety features. It doesn't matter what it says for class 5. We're talking about entering open class. The open class rule requirements only come into effect if the truck did not fit a lower class. A lower class truck is not subject to open class rules, as written they only come into effect if the truck did not fit a lower class it must have A lower class truck does fit into a lower class so the open class rules do not apply to that truck. going back to the general bog rules General Bog Rules : 1) Any truck fitting a lower class can enter a higher class
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Post by 2luvmud on Jul 5, 2011 21:09:26 GMT -6
But if u run a class 2 truck n u belong to the more money than brains group u can run class 3 or 4 if u want ??
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Post by whats up on Jul 5, 2011 22:11:01 GMT -6
So if the rules havent' changed then a truck can run the lower class and bump up to the higher class cause you said the rule hasnt' changed and the overlanders rule from the overlander page says
General Bog Rules :
1) Any truck fitting a lower class can enter a higher class
So we can enter since the rules havent' changed right rogesmiles??
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Post by who knows on Jul 5, 2011 22:53:41 GMT -6
The rules aren't very clear.
If you went to to a dealership and bought a brand new 2011 4x4 pickup, or a 2012 if their out now, and then put non-DOT approved tires on it, as these rules are written you'd end up in the OPEN bog class. Then you'd need : 1 - Rollbar required, minimum of 1 1/2 inch OD tubing, ( minimum .090 inch tubing wall thickness ) with inspection hole
2 - roll bar must be secured to vehicle in at least 6 separate points
3 - must have Kill switch
to be in the OPEN class because you didn't fit in any lower class.
But for those asking about putting a class 200 truck in open class, NO PROBLEM. Since your truck did fit into a lower class, you can enter a higher class and don't need any roll bar or kill switch to be in open class. Those open class rules only come into play if your truck didn't fit into any lower class. Thats what the rules say.
All clubs should adopt NMRO rules or some standard set of rules and then a truck could race in the same class at all race tracks. You'll never get all clubs to agree to that, but having the same standard rules at all tracks sure would make for a lot less questions and disputes.
I know what a cut tire is, but what is an altered tire ?
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Post by rogermiles on Jul 6, 2011 19:28:05 GMT -6
Ok guys here it is. 1. This is for the Questions for Bog classes only. 2. No double entrys( this means you can only enter your truck in each class once) 3. Tech. closes at 10:30( Be tech. in by then, No late entrys).You must be signed up before and paided for how ever many classes you wish to enter in at sign in.( there will be no sign ins after the races has started for any classes.) 4.You may enter as many bog classes as you wish. 5. There is no refunds if you break.
I hope ever one understands this and hope it answers every ones Questions.
Roger President of Overlanders 4x4 Club
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Post by CW RACING on Jul 6, 2011 20:32:35 GMT -6
WOW,WITH ALL THIS GOING ON,SOUNDS LIKE NOTHING IS GETTING BETTER,BUT THATS MY OPPINION,WELL WITH ALL SAID,AND THE SOUNDS OF THINGS,WE JUST MAY STAY OUT THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS AND JUST STAY HOME FOR THIS ONE,NOW DONT GET ME WRONG ,WE LOVE TO COME OUT AND TRY TO PUT ON A SHOW,MEET NEW RACERS AND FANS,BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH,I MEAN AT AN EVENT LIKE THIS WE BRING 50 PLUS FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS OUT AND DOESNT SEEM LIKE THERE IS ANY KINDA OF SERIOUSNESS TAKIN INTO THE SPORT,FIX WHATS WRONG,AND WE WILL BE OUT TO DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO PLEASE THE CROWD
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Post by rogermiles on Jul 7, 2011 3:27:31 GMT -6
Sorry guys let me try this again, If someone is late getting there they will be tech in and sign up.We dont turn trucks away very often, its only when a class has started that you will not be allowed to enter that class. What we are trying to say is once you have signed in and the race has started (Lets say for example bog class 2 is running and after you run you come back an want to enter class 3 this will not be allowed, no late reentering.) I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.
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Post by maroonrocket on Jul 7, 2011 6:01:19 GMT -6
really suck if you didnt come jeremy you always put on a hell of a show. i think your truck is a lot of the reason some people come to watch the bogs! and quite frankly i hate to admit it being more of a drag guy but the bogs are what the fans really wannna see! thats what makes the show in my opinion
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Post by CW RACING on Jul 7, 2011 12:13:40 GMT -6
Thanks jeff and everyone for the comments, you guys are great people and that's what we want at each event,the reason for the post we made was for instance,a club and racers need to stick side by side to make this sport grow and have nice facilities to be able to run at,we are not seeing this here,jeff we totally see where you are coming from,now I know its hard to please a billion people, but do it fair straight across the board,announcements,awards,payouts,ect ....................,and more racers will come and keep coming back,treat EVERY racer the same and the club will win,now these are just our opinions,no harm to anyone,just want a good place to run and meet new friends,we will come out and do what it takes, weather we have to destroy it or not,just to please the crowd and other racers that make the show happen,ONCE AGAIN KEEP IT CLEAN AND CLEAR ACROSS THE BOARDS,AND WE WILL BE OUT,thanks everyone. TEAM BIPOLAR EXPRESS
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Post by Racing Secretary 2012 on Jul 7, 2011 15:12:24 GMT -6
I do so agree with CW racing that it needs to be kept straight across the boards as for thanking Jeff, that is wrong because if you look at his postings on several different topics, let alone this one. He has stirred the pot and belittled club members and yet he is a club member himself, yet he only posts you tube video to belittle someone under his sit and grinnin, nope thats about it. So Hats off to the Overlanders Club each and everyone of you for the hard work you do on the track setting up the races and getting the payouts out there and all so for trying your darnest to make a better club. I'm sure this post won't last for long since he always removes post that he does not agree with. But thats ok I can do the same. I look forward to the races in Peoria, I really like to watch the bogs and the faster truck/cars that put on a real nice show. Thanks for those that are still competitive and just want to race cause thats all we are ... I don't know much about puttin a truck together but I do know when someone is violating there rights on a forum. So much for that, I just hope Jeremy that you realize OVERLANDERS is trying very hard to be a racing family of guys and gals who enjoy the sport. look so forward to seeing you.
linda miles
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