Rule changes!!

[bighorse]

Is there going to be any rule changes in class 400 drags for next year?? Be nice to know early if we need to make changes.

[CFSIII]

;D

[samlam]

Stock class has the next to the least amount of written rules (OPEN class is the least) but has the most intended rules as per the word stock.

Do we allow any size truck in with the big block

Do we limit the size of the truck

How to limit size ---- SCALES ??

limit on Looks

How to determine the engine ??

Is vacuum a good way to determine the engine?

There is many things to consider here

We do allow stock big blocks in stock class in the full size 3/4 or 1 ton or above in which they were offered from the factory

A long wheel base 1/2 ton

[maroonrocket]

i like that rule there jeff that might make me get back into mud racing

[samlam]

It would be nice to get some usable feed back on this before the meeting

Do we need to add a class between stock and vac class 3 and if not enough stock class show up (3 or more) then they would have the option run the next class up

Or do we do away with the word stock and open it up a bit, what would be the way to make it different from class 3 vac class

These are just Ideas to get some feed back before we go to the meeting

[maroonrocket]

my opinion is if you add a class between 2 and 3 it is going to ruin class 3! if you let class three trucks in 200 you wont get many street trucks and it will discourage young kids and guys starting out. there isnt enough trucks to make more classes. again just my opinion. i feel leave class 200 alone and leave it for beginners street trucks and guys testing the water to see if they want to invest the time in building a truck!

[samlam]

You make very good points and I can see where putting faster trucks in the 200 class would hurt the normal stock trucks.

Any other class need talked about or any other Ideas.

Speek now or wait till 2013

[justin ackman]

big blocks in short bed trucks in stock class but no race fuel?

[CFSIII]

who decides if its race fuel?

[samlam]

Does that limit to A Truck only or do we allow Blazer / bronco etc

how do we look at the 1/2 ton Jeeps and the Bronco 1970 and below they were titled as 1/2 tons ?,

[justin ackman]

the tech crew would check the fuel and sam that is a good question i hope we will have a good turn out at the rules meeting so everyone can speak there opinion

[maroonrocket]

MAYBE long wheel base with big blocks. problem with it is going to be if you allow 77 and older broncos and jeeps in class two people are gonna wanna start running them in class 300 and 400 and arent these classes ment for full size trucks. justin the problem with the race fuel is thats not limiting anything a guy that wants to get around it can still run a hi compression motor with E85

[justin ackman]

that is a good point me and rj talked about the no race fuel rule just trying to make it a better class. this is why we need as many people as possible to vote for the new rules we didn't think about the e85 carbs . also class 300 is getting out of hand its a big jump from 2-3 we need to find a happy medium.

[64mudracer]

maybe if you have a factory stock class for full size trucks, then a stock class for built trucks allowing some modifications .. aluminum intakes and big blocks in short beds. if you allow headers it opens another can of worms.. its a good class to fill in between Factory and class 300 , some will bump up and run 300 if they are competitive

[Justin ackman]

Jeff I guess I could have put it in better words than that what I mean is the jump between class 200 and 300 is getting out of hand its leaving alot of trucks out of the race we need something in between the classes to make it more competitive for the guys that are just barely out of stock class but not full blown class300 trucks

[maroonrocket]

a class in between 200-300 would be fine if its for the right reasons. but it has to be like justin said a happy medium between 200 and 300 like maybe 16 in vacuum at 800 dual plane aluminum intakes headers 1 3\4 primary or smaller double pumper carb no gutting stock interior no traction assist stock suspension. no putting straight axles where ifs belong because thats a traction aid. 2 1\2 in dual exhaust. no msd boxes. then you could take and make 300 a dominator class and you could have trucks be competitive in a couple classes.

on another note how about dual carbs in 500?

[justin ackman]

keep the ideas coming in it will all be talked about at the meeting

[maroonrocket]

jeff we will not have to worry bout that since we are both retired but with the new class can we lift the dominator rule for 3 bcuz jeff is right on that matter! and how about my suggestion earlier on the dual quads in 500?

[mylilclass3632]

I think your class 500 drag and your bog class need the most work.

500 drags is the only class you can run if you build a truck for that class because of the single carb and no gutting rule you would not stand a chance in class 600 to big of a jump between class.

Bog class no dominator carb until class500 leaves all class 400 drag trucks out.

The stall rule in class 300 drag needs to be taking out no real way to test it leave it at no trans brake.

I think the new class you are taking about will in up like the 300 class way faster then you can imagine. i have a long bed f150 that wieghs less then my short bed with no gutting. I agree with jeff i think a 250 class truck could but alot of higher trucks on the trailer.

David

[rich jaeger]

just a quick question someone,class 300 says carbs must have factory numbers and no modifications to carb, the way im reading it if a guy shows up with a carb from say quick fuel,prosystems ,biggs or any other custom built carb builder,then he cant run 300,because those are all custom built(modified) for that particular motor,yes/no?