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Dec 24, 2006 8:12:57 GMT -6
Post by dick on Dec 24, 2006 8:12:57 GMT -6
300 to 400 going from 15 lbs vac to nothing is a big jump most guys driving on the street don't pull but about 8-9 lbs of vac with production heads. With 38.5 tires or smaller, i think it would be easier to move up in classes if you was to try a class in the middle like with 9 lbs 1000 rpm 38.5 tires production heads, no carb limits, factory suspension, with a traction device,
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Dec 26, 2006 8:36:29 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 26, 2006 8:36:29 GMT -6
A- 9,10 or even 12 inch limit on vac would limit much I know we were getting around 13 on the red truck with a few minor Adj
15 is not hard to get even with a good cam
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Dec 26, 2006 13:57:54 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 26, 2006 13:57:54 GMT -6
Im not sure ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Dec 26, 2006 16:55:52 GMT -6
Post by dougingram on Dec 26, 2006 16:55:52 GMT -6
somebody's is wanting to really open up class 300 lowing the vacuum . I like the idea of allowing traction advices to the classes as i can think of other club rules that do allow ladder bars and that might bring more trucks to our races.
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Dec 26, 2006 18:40:04 GMT -6
Post by WILLIE on Dec 26, 2006 18:40:04 GMT -6
Does them there miner adjustments include a vacuum pump I hope so there ain't no way that red truck can suck I mean pull 15 inches of anything......... I don't think you need to add another class If anything youall should drop a class in the drags like class 4 or even class 5.. class 4 has the red truck class 5 has the red Chevy of Tom's and if Engram would get off his a@# you would have 2 in class 5 unless the red ford could step up to the plate in class 5 ??
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Dec 27, 2006 8:43:37 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 27, 2006 8:43:37 GMT -6
When did I say it would pull 15 ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Im pretty sure I said 13. and if you want to look for a vac pump be my guest We have nothing to hide Hell I think my Jeep would pull 9 Why is it if your fast U must be a cheeter ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png)
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Dec 27, 2006 9:00:04 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 27, 2006 9:00:04 GMT -6
Do we need to drop anything, Our club in the past, and for many years has either bumped them up (if there were not at least 3) or give there money back and yes we have in the past let 2 trucks race each other, we decide that at the track.
If you check any other tracks - all classes had low entrys in 2006 I know because I was at most races, MY guess is because of travel expence, .
Lower class are always easer to get more because of the amount of trucks in the area that fit lower class rules. If gas prices stay down I know the class will start filling back up.
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Dec 27, 2006 11:06:08 GMT -6
Post by WILLIE on Dec 27, 2006 11:06:08 GMT -6
I believe you said... I know we were getting around 13 on the red truck with a few minor Adj 15 is not hard to get
How forgetfull we can be...................
Why is it if your fast U must be a cheeter Hmmmm. If I recall, there is not a vacuum rule in class 4 so why would you be cheating or are you planing to come down to class 3 ;D
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Dec 27, 2006 15:23:34 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 27, 2006 15:23:34 GMT -6
A- 9,10 or even 12 inch limit on vac would limit much I know we were getting around 13 on the red truck with a few minor Adj 15 is not hard to get even with a good cam How did you get that out of the above ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) I guess if you dont look at the break in the lines and jam it all together then it would say that What im saying is we got 13 with the Adj and with a good cam slection you can make 15 pretty easy
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Dec 27, 2006 16:03:46 GMT -6
Post by tommy on Dec 27, 2006 16:03:46 GMT -6
Yes Sam I agree it must be pretty easy just look at that ''(stock)'' truck of Engrams It must be pretty easy or else he has one hell of a good cam grinder. ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png)
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Dec 27, 2006 16:25:42 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 27, 2006 16:25:42 GMT -6
there is no secrete there ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Just call any major cam co and they can help you get the most for your money, That has been done for around 10 years now
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Dec 27, 2006 16:30:00 GMT -6
Post by dougingram on Dec 27, 2006 16:30:00 GMT -6
Hey I did I get in on this one, tommy I will give a secret the name of my cam grinder HOBART !! ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png)
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Dec 27, 2006 16:47:39 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 27, 2006 16:47:39 GMT -6
Hey Doug when when gona see pics of the new Ride ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Dec 27, 2006 20:18:08 GMT -6
Post by dougingram on Dec 27, 2006 20:18:08 GMT -6
SAM emailed a pic for your curiosity
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Dec 28, 2006 8:38:16 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 28, 2006 8:38:16 GMT -6
Thats is a sweet ride, thanks for the front shot because I'm sure we will be seeing a bunch of the back of that machine next year
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Dec 28, 2006 10:23:56 GMT -6
Post by WILLIE on Dec 28, 2006 10:23:56 GMT -6
I looked up Hobart and didn't find anything are you sure it's not Herbert. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png)
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Dec 28, 2006 10:48:14 GMT -6
Post by dougingram on Dec 28, 2006 10:48:14 GMT -6
hey I'm serious about Hobart they are out of Troy Ohio the difference between them and other grinders is that they have the state of the art MIXER/GRINDER if you don't no the write mix how can you except the write grind you must use the HOBART 4246 series mixer/grinder for the most vacuum ;D ;D
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Dec 28, 2006 11:10:34 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 28, 2006 11:10:34 GMT -6
man you are to much My out look on taking out classes 1- We force racers up a class/ they dont come back to the next race because they dont have a class they have as much a chance in 2- they change a few things to move down a class which i see happing more than the first line/ do we realy want that ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) Leave the class alone ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) 1- they have a class they fit and if no one showes they bump up/ or they run there class and the next one up ( this happens most of the time) Remember drag class do not take long to run the only one that is hurt from small #'s in the class are the drivers of that class
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Dec 28, 2006 13:01:37 GMT -6
Post by 1badsmallblock on Dec 28, 2006 13:01:37 GMT -6
Sam that would make sense if class 4 was a functional class. What you should have typed was My out look on taking out classes 1- We force Travis up a class/Travis wont come back to the next race because Travis don't have as much of a chance in. 2-Travis my change a few things to move down a class which I see happening more than the first line.(even though the red truck does not even fit class 4!!!!)
They leave the class alone 1-Travis has a class he fits and if no one shows he bumps up or he runs his class and the next one up.(What the heck is the point of this class. For overlanders sake, he is the only truck in this class. It shouldn't be there and we shouldn't pay out to this class. I don't care how many clubs have this iron headed class. It obviously isn't a plus for overlanders.!!!!)
Remember drag classes do not take long to run the only one that is hurt from small #s in the class are that drivers of that class(There is a difference between small numbers in a class and one truck in a class. For some reason you built this truck, made up rules for it, and it didn't work. I'm sorry. we have to look at this from the clubs perspective. it does us no good to have this class or to pay out to this class. when you travel with these trucks you will do great with this truck, but its not working with the overlanders 4x4 club, which is what we have to look at. Not what everybody else is doing but what can we make better.
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Dec 28, 2006 13:30:41 GMT -6
Post by samlam on Dec 28, 2006 13:30:41 GMT -6
You dont see my point but that is your opinion
You think he is the only Iron headed non vac pulling truck out there I have a hard time believing that,
Is there a bunch out there that wont come and race against him Thats more like it
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