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Post by Poison Oil Racing on Dec 9, 2007 20:35:08 GMT -6
Since the Rules meeting is coming up I thought I would put this question out there and see what kind of response I get.
The current rules for Class 100 Bog state:
Stock V-8’s : Must have 18 inches of vacuum at 800 rpm torque converter stall speed not over 1800, measured in low range blocks must have factory markings such as GM , FORD, etc Engine, body and drive train must be same make and model [/i]
Now, does stock mean stock as in 'It came stock from the factory like that' or does stock mean it just has to match the criteria listed above?
The reason I ask is that if I put a 460 in my '86 Bronco, which was never a factory option, but it pulls 18 inches of vacuum at 800 rpm, etc., etc., does that still keep me in the Class 100 bog?
Mark
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Post by tommy fords rule jones on Dec 9, 2007 22:38:57 GMT -6
I was wondering about 300 drag rules it says no gutting does this mean none or can I get away with some? also engine,body and drive train must be same make does this mean all drive train or can I run my aftermarket converter,ring and pinion and transfer case? wheelbase? how short can I go can I run a bronco wheelbase with a truck cab (that kind of works don't it. its not really same make and model but it still ford) and no traction assist devices how about spring clamps and finaly I have lexan windows your rules don't say any thing about that. are they ok?? we might try to make a race or 2 this summer
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Post by samlam on Dec 10, 2007 8:58:25 GMT -6
Since the Rules meeting is coming up I thought I would put this question out there and see what kind of response I get. The current rules for Class 100 Bog state: Stock V-8’s : Must have 18 inches of vacuum at 800 rpm torque converter stall speed not over 1800, measured in low range blocks must have factory markings such as GM , FORD, etc Engine, body and drive train must be same make and model [/i] Now, does stock mean stock as in 'It came stock from the factory like that' or does stock mean it just has to match the criteria listed above? The reason I ask is that if I put a 460 in my '86 Bronco, which was never a factory option, but it pulls 18 inches of vacuum at 800 rpm, etc., etc., does that still keep me in the Class 100 bog? Mark[/quote] Same Make (ford to ford) Same model (offered by Ford or could get from ford in that model)
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Post by samlam on Dec 10, 2007 9:26:56 GMT -6
I was wondering about 300 drag rules it says no gutting does this mean none or can I get away with some? also engine,body and drive train must be same make does this mean all drive train or can I run my aftermarket converter,ring and pinion and transfer case? wheelbase? how short can I go can I run a bronco wheelbase with a truck cab (that kind of works don't it. its not really same make and model but it still ford) and no traction assist devices how about spring clamps and finaly I have lexan windows your rules don't say any thing about that. are they ok?? we might try to make a race or 2 this summer I will try and answer as short and to the point as possible The cab must remain full. Do not cut metal outa the cab/ front clip. The bed can be a flat bed but must support the weight in the rules. We will not tear apart your truck to see what you have for a converter, ring / pinion.. Transfer case must be a case offered by Ford/GMC/etc. We will not get #s off of it to see if it was offered in your year of truck. We will test the stall to see that it will stall 2500 and not over that. 2500 in low range is the limit in 300. There is no wheel base rule at this time in 300 or 400. We will address that question at the Jan rules meeting. And post it after the meeting. The no gutting rule will not allow window replacement or removal. You must have regular windows. We made one of the racers change his Plexiglas rear window back to glass last season. Spring clamps are fine (no Ladder bars)
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Post by Poison Oil Racing on Dec 10, 2007 10:58:23 GMT -6
Got it. Thanks.
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Post by bayou on Dec 10, 2007 11:49:46 GMT -6
Did everyone keep same position as last year? Something to think about for bogs next year. Some racers wont change thier trucks because they dont want to race class 400 only. The rules for class 300 have a lot of restrictions. If you dont meet them you race class 400 that has few limits. If you dont have lights you race 400,if you dont have a full dash you race 400, to much metal removed you race 400, other than factory windshield you race 400. These things do not make a truck fast enuf to justify having to race in a class with nitrious, paddles, whatever may show up. I think there needs to be a little more leaway to class 300. In the great words of a wise wise man, I COULD BE WRONG!!!
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Post by samlam on Dec 10, 2007 15:29:17 GMT -6
Rod the only change was to the executive board and the tec crew they will be posted soon.
Rod - When we put the rules together for the bog we used the drag rules as guide lines and we tried to cut down on the amount of classes (combining 2 or more classes into one) as you well know it takes a bit longer to run the bogs then it does to run the drags. If you plan on joining the club please attend the rules meeting in January. We need input on the bog.
There was talk about opening up 2b class if this is done then we might be able to open class 300 a bit. This is not set in stone it is just talk.
I know we are not looking to add more class as we do not have the time to run the class we have now, and we need to keep all the trucks- drags/ bogs in a one day format.
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Post by tommy on Dec 10, 2007 22:11:55 GMT -6
Thanks for the answers? Glad I asked. Sounds like you guys have some clarification to do on your rules looking forward to your 2008 rule updates!
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