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Post by bloomgren on Jan 26, 2012 20:31:20 GMT -6
all last year i did race 400 and 500 and acording to the rules the same this year
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Post by joshdavis on Jan 26, 2012 21:28:09 GMT -6
Raise the protest fees!!
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Post by samlam on Jan 27, 2012 9:43:36 GMT -6
Josh We will stick with the 100 for this year or at least untill we see that it will geta outa hand most racers in class 300 hardly have the entry fee let alone an extra 100 to gamble with. We could have done it like the stock car clamer class, protertor wins they get the protested motor Again as a racer sence 1986, watchen the boggers suck there air filter into the carb - mud inside the engine, watchen water spit out the ehaust pipe seeing drag racers including my self as thee dust rolls under the hood into the Kand N open pleated air cleaner in the stagging lanes or just warming them up, THIS little test WILL NO BE A PROBLEM. you guys need to stop all the crazy talk about trasing your motor if you are not willing to pull the cover do not race these classes. Maybe we should run a clamer stock class
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Post by maroonrocket on Jan 27, 2012 12:20:57 GMT -6
although we have resolved the issue on my side. i am still standing behind jeff. we talked and we are willing to sit the drags out this year and just bog jeff hows that sound to you?
and sam i sucked some water in one of my motors at toulon and that was the end of the motor so it doesnt always work out so good...lol not saying it will always ruin the motor but it did my last one. and maybe im wrong im more worried about grit and dirt gettng in and sticking a valve maybe it isnt possible just the way i look at it but like i said if someone wants to pump my motor before the truck gets dirty im cool with it
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Post by samlam on Jan 27, 2012 16:12:26 GMT -6
Fall of 1988 I had my first real race motor/ truck - we were trying to see how fast we could go though a small back water area, ME along with Jeff mccue and Tim RIcodrd got them wet and dirty, we all lost oil pres on the way home, not a good deal, mine and Tims were junk had to be rebuilt.
Rushville bog 1993 (i think ) had a 378 CI clevland strocker motor had my entire life saving in this one ME - grandpa toy, along with a bunch of others fill them up, I hydro locked the engine and watched grandpa toy remove his plugs and looked like a water sprinkler as he turned it over. Yes a bunch of us hurt our motors there also. 2 of the many reasons you dont see me in the deep wet stuff any more. I never intended for any one to think i was saying that getting stuff in you motor was ok, in fact it is the worst thing. I cant wait to see your dads new engine, Im thinking head to block spacers???
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Post by mylilclass3632 on Jan 27, 2012 16:15:04 GMT -6
john glad we can be friends and hopefully we can turn into as good of friends as we are with jeff. i agree with dex i think we will sit out of the drags this year until we can come up with a solution for jeff. we all come up with a solution for us that worked out good on our side and the clubs side, we have not heard one suggestion for jeff yet tho? i have a solution if anyone will take it in to consideration. the new cubic inch rule make that effective for 2013. that is a huge rule that was put into place and it will give guys like jeff a chance to change things up. most guys have already got there motors done or well into the works to far to change for this year. im sure when jeff blew is 482 if he woulda thought this rule was gonna go through he woulda redone something like that not his 545. to me this is a win win situation makes the club look great for working with the racers and makes the racers happy.
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Post by maroonrocket on Jan 27, 2012 16:32:35 GMT -6
now i think thats a great idea. and quite frankly if you guys are really putting the cubic inch rule in to further the sport and keep 300 more of a "stockish" class for beginners and guys that didnt have the money if someone woulda approached me and asked me to bump up to 400 as long as i had enough time to save the money up and stuff i woulda been more then happy to leave class 300 to further the sport. just my two cents if thats what you guys are after let me know its too late for me to do it this year but next year i am more then happy to leave 300. and actually even this yeear yet i would probably woulda bumped up knowing i cant win 400 if john did any work at all to his truck.
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Post by mylilclass3632 on Jan 28, 2012 14:43:27 GMT -6
Guys this will work it put you one year ahead on the rules from now on. There should be no reason for anybody to have a problem with the rules from now on. they will have a whole year to prepare. I'm not doing this for any personal gain on my part if i bring my new motor i will entry it in class 500. Just trying to help a friend out. Just sounds like a good solution.
David
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Post by maroonrocket on Jan 29, 2012 17:15:01 GMT -6
im guessing thats a no..lol
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Post by samlam on Jan 30, 2012 9:45:19 GMT -6
We have been talking about this for over 2 years we have known that there was the potential for large CI in a class that was intended to be a class for a beginner that wants his truck to have some bolt on goodies we have all been there and some are still there due to money. most in the lower class can afford the major internal work. we set out a sheet at one of the races last year - we did get some response and I asked at a drivers meeting and got mixed response, most told us to do what ever on the CI that it would not affect them as they were all stock or just over stock boor.
It was posted on this board and members of the club were told that a couple of the racer's ,were not racen in 2012 one was going drag racen and the other was taken 3 years off we did take this into consideration also. As far as our member making a hasty decision just to make sure a few trucks could not run this class ( not our intention at all)It may just appear that way. We have talked about this and looked over all facts . We a club of over 15 racers/members came to the new rules at our posted rules meeting ( it happens every year during the same monthly meeting). We also open stock class up A BIT to help letting bb in 1/2 ton long bed. I'm sure if we see we have totally screwed up we can make adj next year.
Many of our member were not members when they first came to race with the club, but joined as to help put on and help make changes they thought would be needed. Again we invite any new member to join us to help.
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Post by mylilclass3632 on Jan 30, 2012 18:19:03 GMT -6
Sam,
I'm not complaining was just trying to figure out a way to help jeff out if he wanted to race a couple times this year. The new rules did rule me out of class 300 and 400 no big deal i'm working on a trade for a jeep with a 440 in it should make a class 300 truck. If i can't get it done i will put my daughter 466 out of her street rod in dex's old white truck and run class 200. She can't drive for 3 years yet lol so i will have something to race. Dex still can run 300 so its good with us just fell bad for Jeff.
PS no torque plates on the new motor big bore big stroke
David
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Post by bloomgren on Jan 31, 2012 19:17:04 GMT -6
jeff if you feel that strongly about leaving the club i will with draw your dues and have roger return to you i do not think the club needs to vote being you requested sorry you are leaving i am sure i am not the olny one john b
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Post by BRock on Apr 22, 2012 14:44:53 GMT -6
I don't understand your dispute if you fit the new rules you should be the most happy of any one I thought a couple of you guys were not mud racen next year ?? yes a VAC CAM IN A BIG MOTOR IS LESS HP than the same motor with non vac cam, but it is still more than a small motor pulling the same vac so put the big cam in and lets race or keep the small cam and keep it at the 500ci or less and you are set I can debate this for ever I played the game for many years and had lost my welcom at most tracks, I got out of the vac game and I am much happier. If I'm not mistaken, Sam, It wasn't necessarily the vacuum rule that made you unwelcome... People don't likebeing beaten by a different interpretation of their own rules, and promoters don't like ingenuity, that's for sure. I remember quite a few rules being rewritten down south because of a certain blue truck with a vacuum small block putting a hurting on a few people.... I think the CID rule is a little bogus, personally. Big cubes aren't the be all, end all. Sure, they help with vacuum, but so do certain other things. I know that some club members have a problem getting beat by an outsider, and I've been the victim more than once because I traveled somewhere. I'd say, bump the protest fee, and make arrangements to do the pump in an enclosed structure, and youd have far fewer people upset.
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