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Post by riskybusiness on Jan 20, 2012 19:11:37 GMT -6
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Post by 68formalgt on Jan 20, 2012 22:53:20 GMT -6
How come the protester doesn't have to be checked too?
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Post by maroonrocket on Jan 21, 2012 0:38:59 GMT -6
haha
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Post by maroonrocket on Jan 21, 2012 0:40:15 GMT -6
because the rule never effected them yet jeff.....until they have no one to race but eachother
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Post by riskybusiness on Jan 21, 2012 1:44:56 GMT -6
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Post by riskybusiness on Jan 21, 2012 2:31:20 GMT -6
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Post by WVBOGGER on Jan 21, 2012 8:32:34 GMT -6
I know in my area there has been a big push to move away from having a vaccum class. This has caused a drastic decrease in trucks at events. I have spent some major $$ to stay competitive with the change in rules but many of my fellow mud racers simply dont have the money, so they have stopped racing all but a couple races that still have a good ruled vaccum class. I know I would not feel right running my truck now against the vaccum setup I had. Its always difficult to keep eveyone happy with rules but they are needed to allow the differnt levels to race. As always if you have serious cash I expect you could build a lower class truck that will compete in the higher classes but do to the cash this is not the norm. They have tried the cubic inch rules but that has been found to be a rule that is not enforced and many have removed. Hope this helps, I like to see every level of $$ racer have a class. More trucks more fun!! Thanks
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Post by maroonrocket on Jan 21, 2012 16:09:28 GMT -6
hey sam lets lump 600 into open class would be same difference as us running superstock with our vacuum motor. and really let me ask you would you tare your motor down after you been in a bog because if protested you wont be pumped until the end of the day right?
not trying to start a way just my opinion
Dexter
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Post by bogthatbitch on Jan 21, 2012 18:39:06 GMT -6
Oh my something chahged I think I should run back and fourth up AND down as well as in circles butting heads with everyone doing such . . . . Class 300 should be up to 44 inch tires though . As I offer my peace thanks and goodbye
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Post by tim on Jan 21, 2012 19:40:18 GMT -6
;D I do understand compleatly jeff and averyone else . . To your four thow I have NEVER had that to spend on the love of my life so I'm naturally upset seieng high dallor trucks in my class but as time has it I still enjoy seeing them there
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Post by joshdavis on Jan 22, 2012 14:04:19 GMT -6
I hope to be there in a iron headed 400 class truck next year. Wanted to go larger on the cubes but oh well. Will I still get to race my diesel in the 3&400 class this year?
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Post by dirtywhiteboy on Jan 23, 2012 10:17:45 GMT -6
Hey fellas! Im the guy with the blue ford stepside with flames at Peoria last year. I just saw this and would like to add my .02
First off, the cube rule is a good rule in an all out style competition. Really doesnt apply here due to the vacuum requirments. A bigger in motor can use slightly more cam but the air restrictions the cam imposes and the carb rule really evens the odds. Accually ive had engines run better with smaller cubes because the cam size comboed the engine better! You would be better with intake and exhaust requirments than what you have imposed. Also the fact that a 4150 carb was a rule also restricting big inch motors. Oh well, it is what it is. See yall around I guess. Look up flight71.com if you wanna see some small inch vaccum heavy hitters!!
_Greg
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Post by 68formalgt on Jan 24, 2012 2:36:54 GMT -6
Nationally recognized there is:
1) vacuum class 2) an iron headed no vacuum class(superstock) 3) then an aluminum headed class
That's pretty much how it works in New Mexico/Colorado.
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Post by samlam on Jan 24, 2012 11:51:09 GMT -6
It appears the vac is the only real problem we have according to all the post.
As I read the rules there is not much else different between class 300 and 400 If vac slows them down that much here is what we could do
We could add Vac for class 400 say 11 inch or less at the 1000 rpm that is only a bit less than 300 and is the same rpm used for class 300
There are races we ran last year that pull at 1200 rpm and some only want 9 inch of vac some want 12 inch at lower rpm This would bring our class 400 down to the area where it would not be as out reach of the vac motors.
It does not realy matter what we call a class no tracks seem to have the same names for each class utill you get to the 3 upper classes
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Post by maroonrocket on Jan 24, 2012 13:05:47 GMT -6
your right it doesnt matter what you name the class i think the difference between each bump in class is a big differece no matter what you want to call it. my opinion is there is still a huge difference between a motor pulling 11 inches and 15 inches horsepower wise just my opinion and im sure a dyno would agree. even 14 inches is easy to get out of any cam ive had a lot of them 15 inches doesnt seem that easy to get. good thinking but if you do that are you stopping a true 400 class truck from coming because if i was to build a true 400 truck im thinking it would pull no where near even 10 inches again just my opinion i could be way off. just trying to throw a different perspective out there.
Dexter
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Post by rogermiles on Jan 24, 2012 14:11:30 GMT -6
I have a question, not trying to sound stuiped here but how many other motor sports events base there different classes on vacuum. I dont no, just asking. For example drag racing, truck and tractor pulls, motorcycle, stock car, nascar ?
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rules changing again
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Post by rules changing again on Jan 24, 2012 14:17:47 GMT -6
It appears the vac is the only real problem we have according to all the post. As I read the rules there is not much else different between class 300 and 400 If vac slows them down that much here is what we could do We could add Vac ........................... Are the rules going to change again or are you talking about changes for the 2013 season ? When will the rules being final - the morning of the race ?
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Post by samlam on Jan 24, 2012 14:32:38 GMT -6
We will let you know At this point nothing will chage just stating facts and offing Ideas
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are the rules final for 2012
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Post by are the rules final for 2012 on Jan 24, 2012 14:54:35 GMT -6
We will let you know At this point nothing will chage just stating facts and offing Ideas Are the rules final for 2012 season or still subject to change ?
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Post by samlam on Jan 24, 2012 15:00:02 GMT -6
Vac requirement is a very old rule that is only used in mud racing now as far as I know.
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