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Post by justin ackman on Jan 15, 2012 17:58:10 GMT -6
and class 300 didn't have a vacuum rule
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Post by maroonrocket on Jan 15, 2012 18:21:08 GMT -6
wow seriously your missing the point! if you had 44's last your you didnt have to run a gutted ranger with aluminum heads and mutiple carbs! you do this year you have eliminated more trucks then you can imagine who is gonna bring a just for example 650 hp full size truck with 44's or 42's and run there. no one at all there is another style truck you guys have eliminated from your races. no roon for a guy with big tires with out running somebody like bi polar. i know i want no part of following him in a pit!
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Post by justin ackman on Jan 15, 2012 18:30:13 GMT -6
the guys that had 44 inch tires last year have the same rules this year there class has not changed
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Post by bloomgren on Jan 15, 2012 18:30:15 GMT -6
Justin thank you for the post, there are not may truck that are stock that run 44's, they most likely would never be streetable or street legal.
We are an open club that is ran by a bunch of racers that are only interested in the growth of the sport and we are open to any and all members. We put out club meeting on the web site and also invite any and all 4x4 owners to join and vote.
It takes much longer to run the bog classes than the drags. most places only have tire sizing in the bogs. We went to rushville 2 years ago with 1 truck and enterd 4 classes.
Yes we have more drag member than w0 do boggers- please join and vote.
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Post by maroonrocket on Jan 15, 2012 18:47:38 GMT -6
your wrong justin last year 44 guys had an iron headed class to run NOT GUTTED ALUMINUM HEADED RANGERS AND s10 and i have seen a lot of iron headed full size trucks with 44's just maybe not at your guys events. thanks for the invite john but no one listens anyway we all expressed our feelings that 300 and 400 were great classes to leave them a lone and we see where we ended up but thanks for the offer
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Post by riskybusiness on Jan 15, 2012 19:00:54 GMT -6
Sry I am wrong on that was looking on different sheet
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Post by jenks21 on Jan 15, 2012 19:19:26 GMT -6
Jeff, oops. Guess I should try to read usernames a little better. lol.
Dex is right. as far as the 44" class goes. Last year there were three very close classes that were separated by tire size for the majority still following the 200 class rules for the most part. This year there are two separated by 2" of tire size, and a few other differences.
It would be nice to have a class between 2 and 4 that was a little more open then sticking to the 200 rules for the majority. That is my personal opinion and yes it would probably favor for me. But I am just giving my point of view. Just saying that you go from 2500 stall single 4150 carb, do allow aftermarket irons, no brakes to a full gutted multiple carb, set motor back and everything but the juice.
This is a forum for discussion. That is all. I am not here to ruffle any feathers. I have to make rules for a bunch of derby drivers so I know it is a difficult task. I am just giving my perspective of the rules. I understand if I don't like the rules of the game I don't have to play. I did last year and probably will again this year.
There are many more races in the area this year and it will be tough for me to run a schedule like "The Bomb"
later
jenks
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Post by jenks21 on Jan 15, 2012 20:02:27 GMT -6
Shipping of vinyl sticker to 61340 maybe about 8" or so. It would be the only time the pit would have the bomb in the palm of his hand!!!! jenks |
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Post by dieselpower on Jan 15, 2012 21:39:13 GMT -6
I didn't race last season so I don't know who all was in that class, but i know the year before there where several trucks in that class with me. And yes my truck was a street driven truck with 42" tires full interior power windows and air. If five trucks showed up (and they did) then that class had more trucks than half the other bog classes!  I have been to plenty of overlanders races that only had two or three open class trucks and most of 500 class was trucks who bumped up from 400 to race another class! I liked the idea of that class because there are always trucks showing up to bogs that are more trail / street trucks with bigger than 38" tires who don't stand a chance running with class 5 trucks. It's too bad the 300 rule was not set with 44" tires. I was hoping to run again this year but I'm surely not spending the money to buy smaller tires to run.  |
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Post by rich jaeger on Jan 16, 2012 0:48:15 GMT -6
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Post by jenks on Jan 16, 2012 7:04:18 GMT -6
A 55 year old semi driver from clinton IA, if that narrows it down for you jeff.
jenks
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Post by rich jaeger on Jan 16, 2012 18:00:09 GMT -6
there made it easier for ya jeff,lol
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Post by samlam on Jan 20, 2012 8:46:55 GMT -6
After looking at how we have overlook the Idea of stock type trucks that run larger than 40 inch tire, I would like to make the suggestion that our club could take into consideration.
I see that this style truck has a large disadvantage against the class that it may have to run. Not so much in a crazy pit like Peoria (this has been pointed out may times that a driver can make all the diff in a driver roller coaster pit) but at Amboy where it will be a deep speed pit. And possibly Kville if we get that all set up.
I would like the club to consider to do the same like we have done with the Diesel class if enough trucks come and enter (3 or more) for that class we will have that class. This means 3 or more that fit a class below our now 44 inch class with the tire over 40. It can be a lower class truck that changes to the larger tire but I think we would need at least 3 or more that are in that class that are not just bumps ups with 40 inch or smaller. Not saying that others cant bump up if we have 3 that are that class we could run that class.
This would not change out rules as we have adopted but it would give them a alternate class if enough show up
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Post by samlam on Jan 20, 2012 9:19:43 GMT -6
At our last meeting we did talk about weight, and we decided that if the CI rule went over with any success ,we would do the same with scales for next year- again with the protest rule not to scale every truck - only if protested.
We could offer this to any driver (if the club agrees) that wants to know where his or her CI or weight is ( for a fee ) perform the test .
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Post by samlam on Jan 20, 2012 10:27:14 GMT -6
I was protested at a race in Robins IA 2009 I had to remove my carb/ then take my intake off to prove I did not have NOS. I was glad to do so and loved taking the protest money and seeing the look on there faces, I went back the very next race knowing that I would not be protested again and if I was I would get the $ again valve cover gaskets are cheep and mine come off often to set valves and to be looked at.
The Earl theater downtown KVille (gone now) I was ask to leave many times as I'm sure you were to But I went back week after week as there were not that may palces I could walk to to see a movie and show off.
I have seen many people including myself remove valve covers/ carbs / plugs etc at races and I have never seen a problem yet.
Not trying to start a war just looking at all the post lately and seeing what can be done to help.
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Post by samlam on Jan 20, 2012 10:55:34 GMT -6
O yes it pissed me off then - but I now only have the great memory of the look on there faces and the money in my pocket. I would do it again and again
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Post by samlam on Jan 20, 2012 11:29:23 GMT -6
I hope U are wrong about 300 truck that fit the rules not wanting to come back if they fit I'm not sure why they would not want to run, It should be a compliment to be protested - only time will tell.
I see no need for any one to change there truck and if they don't fit 300 they can run 400 which is not much different from 300 as posted before and jump up to 500 also for a second class.
This would let them still run the class at the other tracks which do not run the CI rule
I know that if the truck that can run that 500 class shows up a 400 class truck or a 300 may not win or place that is the way it should be higher class should be faster.
I have placed in the class(s) above mime many times and in the open class many times at many races against trucks that should run .5 to 1 second faster, Luck and a consistent truck can win
I do not do this for the money , I have never had a year where my winnings out do my spending, most the time the winnings pay the day and the fun after.
Non of us make money doing this , I recoop more selling / trading my old stuff than i do racen
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Post by samlam on Jan 20, 2012 12:06:54 GMT -6
Our 500 class is the class that meets Super stock most places not 400
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Post by rich jaeger on Jan 20, 2012 17:21:47 GMT -6
jeff i agree with you major difference in the 2 classes,i have a 521 in my daily driver,driven to and from every mud bog. theres no way i could run in class 400 and compete,heck,im not even legal for 400,i'd have to run 500 which is insane!!!!!!!!!
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Post by 68formalgt on Jan 20, 2012 18:44:01 GMT -6
Jeff I agree totally. Where I plan on racing this year there is no way the 2 could compete with each other. The super stock guys are way faster and at the event that my wife and I put on only 2 stock/vacuum trucks made it through the pit.
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